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because he's not worried about the general election. he's worried about a primary election like a rand paul. >> and the other -- >> by the way, he is from rand paul's state. it's possible. >> he is. the other thing to keep in mind is boehner's speakership vote is up on january 3rd. >> but you -- everybody keeps saying that, but to vote against the speaker who is the caucus nominee, let's face it, he is the nominee of the republican party. to not vote for the speaker is a major act of betrayal on the part of any member of the congress. you have to that day -- >> the idea if he goes and forces through a tax increase, they could express their dissatisfaction, their unhappiness, by not voting for him for speaker. it takes a majority of the full house for him to get elected. a couple dozen of those guys -- >> i know this stuff. >> for the sake of the viewers. >> but for the sake of me, there used to be a sense of doing the right thing, and by the time you're the party nominee for speaker, you vote for the party nominee for speaker. you don't just screw around with this thing because that wo
their elections back in november. you of course did not. so it is possible that between november and now, like a normal human being, you were not paying all that much attention 20 what washington has been up to. it's the end of the year. things have slowed down. we're waiting for a new congress to come in. usually you would have time to get your bearings to figure out where the bathrooms are. that is not going to be the case this year. not with the fiscal cliff. luckily for you, we here at "the rachel maddow show," we have been paying attention. we have had absolutely no other choice, unfortunately. and we are here to help you and everyone else trying to figure out how we got to this point we are in. right after that election, the day after the election, in fact, your new colleagues got to work immediately on the cliff. the day after the collection, republican house speaker john boehner put out this stirring call to action. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans but as americans. we want you to lead. not as a liberal or conservative but as
think 56% compared to mr. boehner's 26% and what the public voted for in the last election. a lot of things the people don't realize is president is catching hell from the left, in other words, from people who believe in the congress that the cpi, cost of living, should not be reduced so that people on veterans benefits, disabilities benefits, social security benefits, the money is not reduced considering most of the people have nothing and only getting $15,000 to $16,000 a month in social security benefits. so with the president engaging in these discussions, she cannot say that he is not coming forth and doing all that he can. i think he is doing all he can and catching hell at the same time. so, again, there is some give, give. i don't agree with the slashing of any kind of benefits for social security, people on social security and medicare benefits but i also see that the president is trying to work a deal. >> congressman, speaker boehner also said to the president, you know, why not just give me the 2011 deal? 800 is that number there, 800 million. why not go back to that? e
. >> it was the will of the house to do nothing? on thursday night, the members of the elected house of representatives decided it would you describe not their will to take a vote on their own leadership's proposal. it would have exempted the first million dollars of income from a tax increase. there was no chance of being passed into law as the president made clear he would veto it. if the speaker's plan b passed the democrat controlled senate. this was a republican proposal. house democrats would not have supported it. democrats couldn't agree to vote on it. instead, they walked out and went home for the holidays. forget about bipartisanship, this house couldn't achieve partisanship. as the speaker explained it, his fellow republicans wouldn't vote on the proposal because they didn't want to be perceived as tax raisers. now, the speaker is at a loss. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the tax code will help us get our economy working faster and put more americans back to work and more americans with tax rules. how we get there, god only knows. >> god only knows? mr. speaker, you're supposed to
the people who aren't willing to make a compromise. >> this is something we know that our elected leader haves to get done and don't have hope for getting something done is on gun control in this country, although the conversation still wages on. fresh in the news is the fact that four firefighters were basically used as target practice for this person in webster, new york. two were shot and killed on christmas eve in upstate new york. there's the suspect right there. william spangler spent time in prison for murdering his grandmother. he shouldn't be access to weapons at all. police say that he left a note behind saying he was doing what he liked to do best, killing. they think in the burned remains to find his sister. they have found human remains but they haven't said whether or not it is his spangler's sister or lot. lynn, the fact that we're talking about this, do we do it now through the prism of newtown? he had also a weapon, the ar-15 rifle, one of the weapons that spangler used. do we look at it through the prism of newtown? >> newtown, virginia tech, columbine, northern illinoi
that just got walloped in the election. can you expound on your theory there? >> first, let me just talk about democrats. you're too young to remember this, ari, but there was a period of time when people were wondering -- >> i dyed my hair, john. >> people were wondering when democrats could ever win a presidential election again, that's because they were on the wrong side of main street america, on some cultural change happening in the country. they were on the wrong side of issues like the death penalty, on issues like the use of force in foreign affairs, and it wasn't until they'd gotten whacked, george mcgovern lost overwhelmingly, mike ducacas was beaten pretty soundly. after all those things happened, the democratic party through bill clinton and others like him trying to change it, made the party more acceptable to the american people. republicans have not gotten there yet. it was a party as we saw in the election, a declining -- white share of the vote is the declining share of the electorate. their share is going up, but not enough to compensate. >> right. >> right now the sort
problem of the country, the spending. >> and it's sort of interesting. nevada re-election him, that's their choice but the rest of the country is held hostage. people in my home state of wisconsin, if they don't like harry reid has majority leader there's nothing they can do. they can put pressure on their senators, but for the most part senator harry reid is in a very powerful position. >> i think he's taking orders from president obama. this is time for the president of the united states to lead. there's only one person who has the pen who can sign into law the law preventing us from going over the cliff and if the president actually wanted to get it done, he would tell harry reid and others this is what we had to do and he would make the arrangement to make sure we didn't go over the cliff. so i think he's just -- senator reid is just playing the role for president obama. >> you said he's eager to go over the cliff because he gets his revenue, he gets his cut. >> blame republicans. >> and he can blame republicans but the problem is many economists say if we do go over the cliff,
with that. and if this guy, who was actually elected to represent 12 million members of the afl-cio today, no one will go live to him either. and so what did this man have to say today? this man who got all of this attention. this man who is the ceo of a $200 million business that plays with the dues money of 4 million people, most of whom disagree with this man on some of the issues he cares about most. >> now, we must speak. for the safety of our nation's children. no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face. how do we protect our children right now? starting today. in a way that we know works. >> and then he suggested something that you cannot do right now starting today. put a police officer in every school in america. that would require hiring at least 132,133 new police officers. now just based on the median salary for police officers in america, that would cost $6.7 billion a year. there is not a town or city or state in america that has extra money lying around today to hire extra police officers. if $6.7 billion had to be raised from ne
't understand how these people cannot do their jobs that they're elected to. so i'm wondering what's your take on what's going on in washington? you're sitting in washington. >> right. the at least we have bipartisan agreement it's all nuts, right? everyone agrees this is ridiculous and in spite of what they say, they've been talking about it for months and years and there was ample talk about what a framework should be through the election, which wasn't that long ago. there's plenty of debate. to tie the two stories we have been talking wiabout together, there was a colin powerful doctrine that general schwartzkopf executed so well in the first gulf war. which was have an exit strategy and using overwhelming force. this congress had an exit strategy. they had the idea of overwhelming force, and they set themselves these limits. if they got through this deadline the pain would be so great on themself -- this is self-imposed -- they would find a way out. they have not executed their own strategy and been able to vote for their own leadership. what you have in washington just to take a step back
-- not vice president. in the white house with her president husband. but as the year goes by and the election cycle goes by i get more distrustful of politicians and politics. >> eric: what do you think, juan? >> juan: i think -- >> eric: will she be north r forth coming with the testimony she gives? >> juan: i don't know why you besmirch her reputation -- >> kimberly: we're not. >> juan: it's way out of line. way out of line. she is the most popular politician for a reason. people respect her work and she represented the country as the face of america to the world. breaking news. there was a report out on benghazi widely respected and honored report that indicated there were no lies or coverups or assets withheld from protecting the consulate. i don't get it. >> from the beckel institute. >> anything that doesn't fit there were ail yeps in new mexico. >> eric: lisa jackson is stepping down. we found out that she had been using a an alias e-mail address. >> kimberly: i am surprised this is happening. so far we have seen a lack of accountability. nobody stepped down or stepped aside. they are
is after the election, we're facing this budget cliff, we'll have a very interesting post-election lame-duck session of congress. they will avoid the fiscal cliff, and they'll do it in a way that will produce a budget agreement either in this lame-duck session or in the first couple of months of next year. that's what i think will happen. >> there's the part of the conversation every year that drives mika crazy when i talk about how we all, in the 1990s, worked together despite some pretty tough differences. >> we didn't in 1995. we had a pretty rough '95. >> '95 was an ugly year. there were a couple of other ugly years. >> but the other ugly years we already had a modus operandi of working together. if you look at what was accomplished in '98, '99 and 2000, they were good years. the only desert year was 1999. >> i faulk specifically about 1999 because people will poke at me when i talk about how you and the republican congress worked together. i say no, you should look at 1999 because even in the worst of times, the president's people were talking to leaders of congress. >> every day.
him even further. he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody who is already sitting there as the speaker than it is to stop him from running in the first place. >> if i could add to what ryan is saying, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching the wrong direction come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have toda
for holding elected officials feet to the fire. my party and colleagues and myself included it is frustrating as a house member. i can't be a house member and senator and president all at once. the house has led. we have tried to be the party of ideas. the body of ideas. as you know this summer we passed a bill to keep tax rates low for everyone. it has been dead in the senate. harry reid won't take it up. after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on. not a single democrat would join with us. this didn't a problem of two well intentioned negotiators not able to come up with a deal. this is the house having to negotiate with itself and the president
of them. every president is bound to be set up for failure because the moment he is elected half the people don't like him. so he is going to have -- he is a human being and going to make mistakes. i am praying for our president because i believe that the bible tells us to do so. >> chris: what do you think has been his biggest accomplishment and what are you most disappointed about over these last four years? >> i don't know what the biggest accomplishment would be. i don't know that. my biggest disappointment is the disunity. president obama ran saying i'm going to be a unifier and our molestation is more divided than ever before. i think it is more divided than at any time since the civil war. that is disheartening to me. >> chris: he would say i have tried and you had mitch mcconnell say in 2010 our number one objective is to make him a one term president. how much is he responsible for that? how much is it everybody else in washington? >> i don't blame simply the president. i think there is plenty of blame to go around. i would say this. we need to stop blaming. you can't fi
's not a fight between the two parties. it is a breakdown inside one of the two parties wherein their own elected leadership not only isn't in charge of their own side, their own elected leadership doesn't even know who is on their side. i mean, in terms of the serenity prayer, john boehner and eric cantor do not have the wisdom to know the difference. mathematically speaking. >> do you think you have the votes to pass plan b among republicans? >> yes. we're going to have the votes to pass both the tax -- permanent tax relief bill, as well as the spending reduction account. >> i am not convinced at all that when the bill passes the house today, that it will die in the senate. >> you know, the bill never got to the senate because it never passed the house because it turns out you guys didn't have the votes to pass it in the house. and the most important thing here is that you thought you did. you counted wrong. you thought you had the votes and you didn't. you did not know that you were going to lose that vote on your own legislation because of the votes of your own side. you didn't know you were
than their elected representatives are. there's a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans. outside of this town and how folks are operating here. we've just got to get that aligned. nobody can get a hundred percent of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. >> david corn, that is the sentiment i made reference to moments ago. that's what i hear on a day-to-day basis. people are critical on the rs and the ds and say my god, why can't they be adults and hash out a deal here? >> the real issue is republy lan house members. not even republican senators. he's doing what he often does, he's being soft on the opposition at this point in time. he also mentioned he was talking to john boehner. i think he still has some faith here -- or hope. so in a statement today, he didn't really whack boehner at all. he didn't make the distinction between democrats and republicans and just attacked the vague congress. but at the end of the day, it's quite clear that h
say more things are on the table than were before the election. the pessimist would say yeah, but there still isn't the substance of an agreement. >> the mechanics, i mean, what we have -- on the obama side, you have an election that pretty much, you know, they took as a mandate, if you will, where, you know, the very issue of taxes was sort of legislative, and the americans basically said they agreed with the president, saying that taxes need to rise on the wealthy. and then you have the right wing of the republican party who won also by wide margins in many deeply conservative districts. and they think they have a mandate. so in a way, it's like the two mandates are canceling each other out. they each think that they are -- and that is why we're frozen. i don't know if it's been that way -- i don't know if the mechanics have been such that it has been so polarized to the point where it's been paralyzing. >> where they feel like they've each won. >> it doesn't baffle me, it sort of angers me is that the conservative republicans who won by overwhelming margins in their distri
like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word.i. . >>> right now on first look -- d-day for president obama and congressional leaders. automatic tax cuts and smaller paychecks hang in the balance. american military hero, four-star general known as stormin' norman schwarzkopf has died. >>> a fiscal milk cliff is looming. bears over the bruins in the holiday bowl. >>> good morning, even as the finger pointing continues on capitol hill this morning, new hope on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterd
in mind, it's been a pretty good year despite it being an election year, despite the fiscal cliff and ongoing problems in europe. the market has done better than it has usual done. what's changed? i think there will be continued political turmoil and slow growth but that's, particularly given valuations, may not be a bad year for equities as all. >> i'm going to add to that list having been a good year for the stock market. also had a lot of recovery in the housing market as well. do all these good things, all this progress become undone if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> i think clearly we've seen some healing in housing which is great and as has already been said we've seen some good progress over in europe and in china so that's all great. i'm neutral on equities in my allocation strategy fund, target rich funds and the reason for that is the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff then i think that given how lean companies are, and as slow as we're growing, we could see the economy dip back into recession and earnings estimates will have to go lower. >> the mastercard rep
turning point for republic i had dans thought he lost that election because he went back on that pledge and raise taxes. will you get anyone in the house to raise taxes at all? >> you make a great point that republicans have kind of their party identity has evolved that they are very consistent on this tax issue and have been since that episode in the '90s, but what you are missing i think is that conservatives are not -- they haven't arrived at a consensus position that this actually would be raising taxes. some of them do, some will vote against this, grover norquist says boehner's plan b wouldn't raise taxes. under current law, the rates are set to go up. >> we'll talk to you again, soon, i'm sure, even if it's not that soon it will be in february or march when we have to revisit this all over again. gentlemen, thank you so much. >> take care. >>> a new here no our viewers, you don't want to miss "meet the press," david gregory sitting down with president obama. check local listings for "meet the press" tomorrow morning. >>> turn to weather now. another winter storm. marching north,
hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in the last election they got very scared and they said we'll vote against the party leadership. >> that could have emboldened them. >> so the speaker is trying to punish them and those that were the outliars as you were describing here. that didn't work and they started to work against them and the question will be what will work? >> it is not clear that there is anything that will work other than as bill points out, having their constituents not support that type of behavior that sort of -- i like to call the hell no caucus. you can't get these guys to yes. if their constituents get to the point that they're angry, then maybe they should start voting with the party. and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply
lady attended the memorial service. he was the first japanese american elected to both houses of congress and the second largest serving u.s. senator. he was 88 years old. >> back here in maryland a police shooting in baltimore county, a police officer opened fire, killing a man who had a knife. that's where derrick is tonight with the details. >> reporter: police say the officer was acting in self- defense when he confronted and shot a suspicious man he found back here behind this gas station. it all started with an officer on routine patrol as he passed the shell gas station at ed monton around 3:45 in the morning. he noticed a suspicious man behind the building. police say when the officer asked the man to come out from behind the building, the man pulled out a knife. >> the officer attempted to use a taser to stop the situation, but it was ineffective. the man refused repeated commands to drop the knife. >> reporter: police say fearing for his safety, the officer shot the man to the chest. he has been identified. he died from the
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. >>> and new reports the tea party process was imploding, imploding well before election day. including an attempt with dick armey getting aimed. >>> plus we'll have the top viral videos of 2012 including this one. >> we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. i met him. we were so blessed when we had triplets if by blessed you mean freaked out about money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more expensive so we switched to the bargain detergent but i found myself using three times more than you're supposed to and the clothes still weren't as clean as with tide. so we're back to tide. they're cuter in clean clothes. thanks honey yeah you suck at folding [ laughs ] [ female announcer ] one cap of tide gives you more cleaning power than 6 caps of the bargain brand. [ woman ] that's my tide, what's yours? >>> former president geo
he has been asking for since the election. the only thing that will have changed is what the republicans are tired of fighting him or not. as of right now, there is no indication that they are tired. they go into next year with a stronger position for the things they want, personal because they have the leverage of the debt ceiling coming up, second of all, they will be able to vote for tax cuts next year. once you you have the tax increases go into effect, at that point, cbo and everybody starts going from higher revenue. the republicans will be voting for a tax cut, even if they don't come down to levels where they are right now. they get the chance to vote for that, which is a lot more palatable. heather: that is what a lot of people at home are wondering. they can't reach an agreement now. we have been talking about this forever. the end of the line, time is up, we still haven't reached an agreement. what we believe that they would've been able to reach an agreement retroactively? >> congress is supposed to work well under the deadline. even if some of the fights we h
: people say republican goes down either way on this. but the house and the senate, this last election by blaming republicans. does he think he will get blamed for this? no. he figures i can do whatever i want. leave the republicans out for dead. >> eric: he is winning the messaging game. that is clear. >> andrea: i say that with confidence. he was able to say look, i was willing to meet them halfway. more than 50%. they don't want to work with us together. he is coming off strong, coming off the supporters, sticking to his position that he pledged to them with the campaign promises. what looks like house in disarray is boehner's house. >> bob: swy j to hear from greg. he's sitting on the edge of his chair. >> kimberly: he is medicated. >> greg: this is so boring. maybe i speak for a small percentage of the audience but this is boring and upsetting. we know the outcome. president obama set up republicans. going over the cliff is like a water slide. defense cut and high taxes. all that misses is the free transgender surgery. you the utopian liberal dream. >> kimberly: you know it. >> gr
. that election. -- legislation. we don't need to talk about people getting together in a room to come up with a deal. we need to do that which is pragmatic and keep the money in the pockets of the american people. right now the spending problem we have in washington, d.c. is affecting this country. we have not had a budget passed by the senate in the last three or four yours. we're telling the american people they have to tighten their bootstraps but we do not want to do that in washington, d.c. we have a federal reserve printing more money to the tune of $45 billion a month to buy up treasury bonds, which is a failed monetary policy which shows this economy is not on the right track. >> what do you think about president obama cutting his vacation short, coming back in, maybe to fix something he broke in the first place? >> well, when you sit back and look at where we are with our economy, the amount of debt we've incurred, the fact we've had four straight years of trillion dollars plus deficits, when the president says he wants to raise taxes on those $250,000 or above, that only genera
reasons. one, because it affect add president that they really like, and remember, the media helped elect president obama, and they helped him stay a elected and one of the reasons was dismissing stuff like that. and the second thing, it's fox news dismissal syndrome, fnds. when it shows up on fox news and it is reported, then the other networks go it's not a story. you get the weird irony that people in the media are hoping that the american people are ignorant t used to be the media would say if only we had a more educated public. now they are getting educated on the story, and, no, it's not a story. >> this is a very serious case obviously. a lot of people disheart ended there wasn't a more thorough investigation and sitting on documents and not coming forward with what the american people needed to know. and benghazi, this story is still going on, the investigation, who is going to testify, who is not. and still more questions than answers. >> amazing. there is a guy in jail because of a video that was blamed for these riots and for this horrible, horrible tragedy. the real scandal is
won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going to run out of borrowing capacity. john, if there were a treasurer in a business who went to their boss and said by the way, three business days, the working capital account dies and as a result, you are not
that line for threshold on tax increases is. looking ahead to the 2014 election, some of the republicans who might have to vote in favor of this do fear a challenge from their right, more conservative hard liners those from tea party districts in particular who have to defend this. who looks good and who looks better depends on where we are. because we're having a smaller deal they're going to have to come back and negotiate things like the debt limit, the sequester and the spending cuts. this is not going to end, anyway. we're still going to round two and three coming up in january like it or not. >> don't forget they didn't actually get everything done in the lame duck session of congress which is over on wednesday they were supposed to get done. the farm bill is about to be over. they're going to have to do a short term extension of that. in general, washington looks bad on the whole. it's not necessarily about one party or the other. although the president is seeing high approval rating right now. >> your absolutely right. david, christina, good to see you both this weekend. don't see yo
and forth between republicans and democrats sounds like we're still having an election that it never was over. i think that now -- now that we've had an election, and the american public has spoken, whatever they meant, it's time for the politicians to get together, come together as starbucks is saying, and get something done. nobody's going to get everything they want. but it's so much more important to solve the problem than for one side or the other to get what they want or blame the other. the atmosphere is just wrong. >> when you hear the argument for going over the cliff. when it's been told to me by both democrats and republicans, by actually some republicans as well, they say that it would be easier to get a deal after january 1st, because taxes will go up, and anything they do is a big tax cut. do you think that's right? do you think that we just need to wait this out and then it will happen quickly? >> no, i think if we do go over the cliff or down the slope, that there will be every reason to get it done quickly. people will be horrified at what's happened. but i don't thi
party's challenges. he said they either wake up to the realities that are facing them. this election was much worse for them than they expected, or there will be young voters who will be obama democrats for the next 40 years. this could be a watershed election if the republicans don't respond in the correct way. >> one of the interesting things -- and i wonder if rick in thinking all this out, if what you all made of this -- is, you know, fdr had this legacy. you still had people -- hubert humphrey was still running in 1 1968 as an fdr democrat. one question i have is, is this wave of democrats, and is obama himself a sui generous figure or is he a kiclintonian figure? >> i addressed some of this. the "r" word, realignment, is something that people are talking about. there was a reagan realignment, and basically you could argue that this is finally the end of the reagan realignment, and there's a kind of obama realignment now. so the question is, is this realignment inheritable? one of the things michael discovered with all of the work that he did with the numbers crunchers is that t
clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3rd. the house is not even here. he's told me it will give him two days to get back here, not two days, 48 hours. they don't even have enough of the leadership here to meet to talk about it. they have done it with conference calls. people are spread all over the country because the speaker is basically waiting for january aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house
was seen strict irbefore the elections and hand brought forward the dematte manned that might have been in the future, people wanted to bite hand guns. >> always the case. any time the debate over gun control flares up. >> does the framework of the "wall street journal" piece tell us anything new about best buy, sears? >> for sears, we have seen them cut costs, cut costs, sears and the kmart stores. it seems that this year the reckoning, the kmart operation, people have lost track of that if you send people inside kmart today, i think you basically find a relatively horrifying situation for the average consumer. i mean, really bad stores that haven't been given the proper maintenance budgets that they deserve. for -- is it life or death? no h i think for the kmart part of it, there will be some sort of reckoning. i say life or death maybe moves more into that category for radioshack that stock has just been getting pummeled. tried to adapt themselves as mobile phone retailer and margins getting killed in kind. so i think this year is sort of that moment, someone come in and do an lbo, e
is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. the housing market is recovering, but that could be impacted if people are seeing smaller paychecks. the unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since 2008, but already were saying consumers starting hold back because of the disfunction they see in washington. economists, business leaders, they all think that we are poised to grow in 2013 as long as politics in washington do not get in the way of american progress. we have to get this done. i just want to repeat that we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate and over to the house done in a timely sessions so that we meet the december 31st deadline. given how things have been working in this town, we always have to wait and see until actually happens. the one thing the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action. if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go to the floor. i have asked senator reid t
that only operate under the elected sheriff. i swear them in and they're law enforcement. ex cops, you maim it. 3,000, by the way i'm going to recruit more to help fight this problem that we have in the schools. >> sheriff joe, i have a couple of seconds. how many schools do you have in the phoenix area? >> well, there's about 2,000 in the state. but there's about in the in my main jurisdiction to i'm going to concentrate on those 50 schools. >> i have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. i want to point out to the viewers, john boehner is leaving the -- he just left the white house and it looks like the meeting has come to an end. it's been -- there he is getting in the car right there with an aide, closing the door. that's boehner's suv. they went in at 3:10. it's 4:19, so an hour and ten minutes. we're going to keep an eye on this and see if any of these guys come to a microphone. >> last minute deal averting a massive union strike up and down the east coast and gulf coast but only for a month. why michelle says this cost the costliest union threat yet. off vietnam in 1968. over
election when that guy came in who did not take them out of euro to. meet biggest things that happened this year were things that didn't happen. no greece exit, no china hard landing and no u.s. slipping into a recession. therefore, the market has been able to lift. >> the last thing that may not happen is the fiscal cliff resolution, too. that could throw an iron in the fire. we've all got to be mindful of the possible debt downgrade. moody's and fitch are still at aaa and they have been rumbling they might take us down, and i think if s&p goes down a notch, mandy, that's not good for the market. >> the fact that these predictions did not come true i guess show that making predictions -- >> it shows the value of strategists. >> okay. >> it shows the value of vat jists. >> what are you predicting for 2013? >> i think you have to watch things in europe. the big day is the september 11th elections in germany and germany could be harder after the election. in the first half is the sent ceiling discussion and finally profits, personal income and production, if those can do better than the
. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are terrible at your jobs. i really don't like working with you. we're going to talk a bit later in the show about everybody hates congress and what we can do about that. but as much as the public hates congress, you really get the feeling that congress' approval rating among president obama is in the neighborhood of negative 75,000 percent. and yes, numbers geeks, not a real number. but he seems really tired of working with these people. but there is a way in which congress, and particularly congressional republicans may actually be helping president obama out right now. everybody's always known two things about the cliff. you're almost certainly going to get more taxes in a deal after you go over than in a deal before you go over it. that's because after you go over the cliff, taxes already go up for everybody. they go up by $5 trillion. so anything you do, any reasonable deal congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing ab
it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off those lows right now and news that the house will reconvene on sunday evening at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. let's get to seemor, modi with more on this. >> hi, mandy, off of our lows, but today a risk-off approach to trading. that's a strategy being used as wall street is waiting by for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. interestingly enough when you look at the year-to-date performance of the major indi
, if we can't come up with anyone other than the guy who won the election. >> was it a cop-out? >> i think in their minds he is the perennial person of the day, bern of the hour, person of year. >> and i think president morsi, and taken over and it really has become the narrative of the entire world. the arab spring, i call it the islamicic awakinawaking. >> rick, aren't you going to hold president obama responsible for that? >> give him credit-- >> so who should we expect next year? or is it too early to talk about. >> i think it's too early to start talking about hillary clinton. i think we're going to have to wait an um can of years, what do you say. >> i'm going to go with president obama? >> we'll have to see whether she actually testifies in front of the committee while she is still secretary of state as the senators seem to request. stay with us, we have more news watch coming up. i'm doing my own sleep study. advil pm® or tylenol pm. the advil pm® guy is spending less time lying awake with annoying aches and pains and more time asleep. advil pm®. the difference is a better night
as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials. a lot of times politicians act because the citizens are demanding it and crying out for it. that's what has to happen on this issue. we have to lead and they will follow. >> i always say our democratic issue -- and it is, it's going to take all of us to do it. and we have to take the politics out of it. elzi, i'll give you the last word. go ahead and go on as long as you want. sorry i cut you off. >> what she described is a microcosm of what's wrong in washington. our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the constitution. not a lobbying group, but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters, the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing w
much of a deficit. >> worry me this question. can you get elected if you say i am going to cut this and cut that unless money flows out. can you get elected f. you reform social security can you get elect medicare or medicaid. you can get elected. i will reform. post office. you can't get elected. >> kelly: you can't take it back. >> once you made the promise to pay how do you with draw. >> clayton: but you can get elected raising taxes. interpeffort the last election. >> julia: we didn't say your name at the beginning of the segment. >> clayton: he doesn't even need an bruction. he's so good. >> julia: this is your guy when you talk about fiscal cliff. >> i am guy with the accent. >> clayton: tune in fox business network . no one does it better stewart varney. ualjullove to your family and beautiful children. >> clayton: teachers trainn to use handgun to protect the school. we report and you decide. julaloha, hawaii. president is heading back to washington. is it too late to avoid the fiscal cliff. you can't answer it because you are leaving now. we'll talk about this next.
in the coverup. what the motive was. we know what the motive was, it was the election and obama had been saying he was done with al-qaeda and possibly this was al-qaeda. the i've made different studies of coverups, pentagon, watergate, iran-contra. >> clayton: i've had the pleasure of meeting him over the years and usually a fair-minded person so for him to come out and say this in person, he may have some evidence to show it's credible and may keep pushing forward. a lot of people are not happy the way that benghazi unto folded, that we were caught flat-footed and even though there were military members. >> and specifically what he's referring to, having read the transcript, on thursday there was a senate foreign relations committee asking exactly the same questions they asked on the first day of the benghazi tragedy and that is the cia memo left the cia with the specific references to al-qaeda in it. by the time the memo was presented to susan rice and came out of her mouth on the sunday morning talk shows, those records as to al-qaeda had been spiked, who did that? even after the report, the
that armed guards won't make schools any safer. and senator-elect chris murphy of connecticut tweeted this earlier today. walking out of another funeral, he was handed the nra transcript. the mote revolting tone-deaf statement i've ever seen. indeed. right before wayne lapierre delivered his remarks, a gunman shot and killed three people in pennsylvania. one of the victims was a woman, hanging up christmas decorations in a church. let's turn to virginia congressman jim moran. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. always good to have you with us, jim oranges this program. thank you. >> thank you, ed. >> what is -- what do you make of today's press conference, the reaction of the national rifle association? >> well, wayne lapierre works for the gun manufacturers. he really doesn't represent the majority of the members who are far more sane and responsible than the leadership is. you know, if you -- there is 125,000 public schools in the country. a security guard at 50,000 with benefits for a year, do you think the nra would be willing to tax its guns and a
. furthermore, michelle, after the election this past november where you rightly say -- but so did a majority in the house of representatives as republicans we have a responsibility to stay true to our principles john boehner said to the president you what? you won, but so did we and so we'll meet you half way. you said you wanted to raise taxes and generate $800 billion in revenue over ten years and we'll give you the revenue and we'll give you exactly what you want which is 800 billion in revenue, but let's make good on the campaign pledge which is $3 in cuts for every $1 in revenue and president obama didn't meet us half way and he didn't only offer $2.4 billion in cuts and he wanted twice the revenue. he said 800 billion is what he said during the election. >> and 6 trillion. >> yeah. >> spending is not the problem. >> no, i agree with you. >> i'm sorry. >> revenue is not the problem. >> yeah. >> it's been a long week, hasn't it? >> good luck on sunday, let's see what happens and we'll have you back afterward and see what's going on. >> let's get the market reaction. eamon hinted at this,
on these elections and these are failed, failed policies and that's why the states are losing jobs. you know, instead, redirect those toward more productive uses within the labor force, training workers, keeping them in the work force and keeping them in the state and we don't need another recall like in wisconsin a complete waist of money and union dollars and that's why this is happening. >> toby last word here? >> we're going to see it's a big battle. but this is a battle that if they win, they lose for the state of michigan. >> brenda: okay. that's the last word. thank you all and thanks for joining us. so, you think coal is the worst christmas present ever? not here on bulls and bears, why that's all you should want from santa this clear.year. ♪ all i want for christmas is you ♪ [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. bass pro
election happening in iran over the summer. that will cause a political crisis. >> you don't want to show their strength in force by doing something. >> that's how you handle a political crisis if you are a middle eastern leader you take a fight with israel. >> how do you see israel responding how do you see them trying to prevent things are happening last summer. >> they have tone gage in covert action to delay the program enough that the regime collapses one day. >> we saw the cyber attacks do you see it more in that or directly? >> there is several mysterious showing how serious the israeli take the slthreat you can't rul anything out. >> next topic the chaos in syria is really out of hand. what do you see going on with that? >> there is no good outcome unfortunately. there are plenty of good rebels that arm terrorists. they are not the only ones controlling what happens on the ground. you have assad the dictator fighting the muslim brotherhood and al qaeda fighters on the ground. you think that the bloodshed is bad now just wait and see what's happening on the ground. >> next topic sa
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